Film with Lowkey

Brian Salisbury interview with Lowkey, January 2019




Lowkey writes:

This is Brian Salisbury, one of the brilliant minds behind the Lucas Plan of 1979. You are unlikely to have heard of him or the Lucas Plan, because within it are the seeds of a radically different society. Until recently it seemed the powerful had successfully written him, his colleagues and the alternative their plan represented, out of the history books.

Yesterday, we travelled to his home where he graciously welcomed us and allowed me to interview him for our forthcoming documentary on the British arms trade. In the 1970s arms manufacturer Lucas Aerospace despite receiving millions of pounds in government subsidies was cutting jobs at a fast rate. This led Brian and his colleagues to appeal to Tony Benn for help in November 1974. They agreed on the idea of presenting Lucas Aerospace with a list of 150 socially useful products they could use their expertise and the advanced technology at their finger tips to create, rather than machines that kill people. This list included products that rely on renewable energy such as wind turbines, products that are now in common use like hybrid engines and also life saving products like dialysis machines, a shortage of which was leading to needless deaths across the country. He recounted their struggle to gain support for the plan and his meetings with academics like Stuart Hall.              

This plan represented a missed opportunity for industrial democracy as Lucas Aerospace arrogantly rejected the plan. Worse than that, was the betrayal Brian and his cohorts faced from the Wilson government which not only subsidised Lucas Aerospace further and supported its cuts but dismissed the plan outright. The revolving door between arms companies and the M.O.D. was made apparent when the general manager of Lucas Aerospace Sir James Blythe went was appointed head of sales at the Ministry of Defence in 1981.

While the Lucas Plan has gone largely forgotten in corporate media dominated public sphere, we have constantly heard it brought up while making this documentary. In fact, we showed Brian footage of an interview we did with Lloyd Russell Moyle, in which he asserts that Labours Defence Diversification project for government is largely inspired by the Lucas Plan. Moyle said the adoption of something similar to the Lucas Plan was in fact an inevitability. I asked Brian if there was some poetic justice in the fact that Lucas Aerospace and its parent company no longer exist, but the plan which he and his comrades agonised over is alive and kicking. He smiled and said there was. I asked how we could hold their feet to the fire to ensure the betrayal did not repeat itself, he said clearly by building a movement from the bottom up which applies constant pressure.

The above statement was made by Lowkey the internationally famous Rapper and Activist following his interview of Brian Salisbury in January 2019.

The interview is approximately one hour long, split into five parts. To see 

Part 1 here

Part 2 here

Part 3. here 

Part 4. here  

Part  5. here